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[Homer]

hey folks!

i am going to record guitars for my album soon. my problem is, when i record, i get this "clanking" sound added. its a very high clangour, i think about 15 khz. someone told me to set a lowpass filter at about 10khz, but it doesnt really make it sound well :/
i have an sm57 which should be a decent mic imo. im using a dual rectifier (fx: tc electronics g-major) with a marshall 4x12 cab.
i want to get a sound like the guitars on the new turisas album, or like the beautiful death sound, with a little more presence.
also the recording sounds so "thin", despite i double tracked it... :/

any help, also recording tips are very appreciated!

thanks in advance!
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[Gio]

Andy Sneap (The God of Production) always uses an SM57 roughly an inch away from the grill cloth, slightly offset from the center of the cone. He also gives the guitars a high pass at 60-80hz, and a low pass at 10-12khz. At this point give the guitars a little boost at 1.5khz and a big scoop at 6khz. You should also use a multi-band compressor to control the low mids around 200hz, or else it will sound a little muddy.

I hope this helps. It should sound way better and clearer in the final mix with all the other instruments if you do these things.
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[Homer]

very big thanks for that!!! i'll definitely try that!

any suggestions to make them sound "bigger" tho?
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[Gio]

Try layering each guitar track. Be careful and do not go overboard. Typically Andy Sneap will layer each guitar 2-4 times depending on how tight the player is. If you are even minimally sloppy, it will mud up your sound significantly. I have no idea how tight you play, so I would just stick to 2 layers for each guitar. Make sure you vary up the guitar/amp each time if you can, or at the very least try a different distortion/EQ. When you are finished, slap the same EQ/compression on each track to unify them and see how it sounds.

Remember, PLAY TIGHT.
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[Gio]

Oh, and make sure that you pan the guitars quite a bit. Leads should stay close to the center, but you can pan the rhythms hard left and right if you want. That should add some depth to the sound as well.
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[Homer]

much thanks for this!! cant wait to try it out
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[Gio]

No problem, let me know how it sounds. Post it here when you are done or something!
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[Homer]

[Jordi]

Gio is right. I have just recorded an album with my band, and the best way to make guitars sound "bigger" and more "full" is to record 2 tracks playing the same. The problem is that this makes the recordings much longer, since you have to record lots of parts 2 times, but I can tell you that the sound is incredibly better. While you record, check out every part if it fits perfectly with the previously recorded track, otherwise it will lose definition. And NEVER copy paste tracks, it only makes them sound louder but not "bigger".

Tell us if it works.

[Fëanor]

[Gio]

Not to mention strange phasing issues, where certain doubled frequencies may start to cancel each other out. Bad news.
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[ThomasVanBeeck]

There are no magic settings that works for everything. It all depends on the amp, guitar, the room, mic position, the player... I highpass at 120 mostly but it all depends. There is definately not a magic setup that works for everything, not at all! All I can say is make it sound right by your ears, not by what anyone else is saying, experiment alot with mic positioning, amp settings and just spent alot of time on it. The better your beginning sound, the less you'll need to EQ afterwards.

[Fëanor]

Wow, that's one hell of a necropost. lol
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